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The Lithium Battery Problem…
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Aug 14, 2024
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Yes, there's obviously some issues with it like what we just saw earlier a few weeks
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ago by the time this video comes out there was a massive cold snap in the north of the
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United States and there were all these people that had Teslas and electric cars that were
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all stranded because of how cold it got they were basically dead in the water
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The cars would not run, the batteries would not charge, nothing would work. At the same time, I want to say that you can't really say all that much about that
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because when it gets to negative 50, negative 60, like these massively low temperatures
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lead acid has its problems anyway. Any battery is going to have a problem whenever you get that cold
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I guess it's a talking point, not necessarily something that I would say is a problem, especially
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when you're talking about boating. You're not boating in negative 40 degrees
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If you are, that's a choice. I don't know if that would really relate, but that is kind of where you see some of
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the problems and then obviously talking about the explosive factors of it
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Even though lithium phosphate doesn't have the same problems as a nickel manganese cobalt
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so NMCs, NMCs, if they are damaged, those are the ones that will explode
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But the problem is that LFP, lithium iron phosphate, which is the main type of battery
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in the boating world because they don't have thermal runaway as easy when they're damaged
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So you could, you know, stab the battery and I want to say 99 times out of 100, it's not
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going to catch on fire. Even though there are some experiences, again, depending on the BMS and the quality of the
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battery, obviously when you make something super cheap and you just pack it together
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and people are trying to make money, they can cheap out on certain steps and make things
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dangerous that they shouldn't be. But that's a whole nother topic all on of its own
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When you're talking about LFP, a good brand and a good product, it doesn't have that issue
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But you don't have the capacity and the range that you get with the nickel manganese cobalt
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NMC, they are more dangerous, but you get more range and you get more capacity out of
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the battery than you do with the LFP. There are, you know, obviously new technologies coming out all the time and they will eventually
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figure something out to make it, you know, the ultimate product like solid state
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So opposed to using certain types of electrolytes, they use a solid state inside the battery
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and that shows a lot of promises. Obviously I think the main problem with the solid state is that the cycle count is lower
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So how many times you can drain the battery and recharge it, the cycle life is a lot lower
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than, you know, an electrolyte substance. And then the graphite, they're using graphite and then sodium
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So sodium is a salt and opposed to using lithium, they'll use sodium and solid state and graphite
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and all these other, you know, they're making different chemical compounds to get the best
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out of each different one to make it cheaper, last longer and have more range
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So if you've got batteries that will last you 15, 20 years that don't explode and have
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less weight than carrying 600 gallons of fuel, then, you know, the benefits are there
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Obviously charging them, you know, that could be its own problem, its own discussion of
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you know, if you burn 600 gallons of fuel on your trips or wherever you're going, how
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much electricity are you going to use whenever you charge your boat
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So is your electric bill go up a thousand bucks a month to keep your boat charged
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Or, you know, that whole mathematic side of things, I don't really know
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You'd have to kind of figure that out. We'll figure that out as time goes on
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But as far as like them being safe and being useful and being like the future of boating
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I definitely see the potential and I'm all about it. I think, you know, the batteries again, if they can figure out sodium because there's
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so much more abundant than lithium, that'll be great. If they figure out the solid state to make them have the cycle life
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You know, if you can get 20,000 cycles out of a battery, that battery is going to outlast
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the boat. And if you can get, you know, the graphite and all these other things to get different
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ranges so where you can have a boat that can do 600 miles or whatever it may be to be equivalent
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to using, you know, fuel, then 100% there's no disadvantage there because if it doesn't
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explode when you damage it, then the safety is there. And if you can get the range, then great
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That's kind of the biggest problem that I think people are seeing with electric on cars
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But obviously when they figure it out with a car, they're going to figure it out with a boat too
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So it's just a matter of time. And when they figure that out, if you get like, let's say you get into an electric car
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it says that you have 400 miles until you're empty. That's all fine and dandy when you're doing 65, 70 miles an hour
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But that's not really the true range because you get in this car and you're doing 90, 95
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100, you're not going to get 400 miles range out of it. You're going to get, you know, 250 or whatever, you know, whatever it may be
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I don't know the exact number. That's an exaggeration, but you get the point
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The point is that you think you have this distance, but depending on how much you're
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using it in boats, we're going, you know, wide open throttle as much as possible
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We're using a lot of capacity, a lot of power. So if you like this clip, you can watch the full podcast over here or watch another one
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over here
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